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Ataahua
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May 10, 1:57am
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I will gladly take all credit, if the movies are good.
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If they're bad, I'll dodge all blame. 
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Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Otaku-sempai
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May 10, 2:00am
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Um…
I doubt he would want to do it again even with CGI youthening or AI. It should be too active a role.
Somebody should tell Tom Cruise it’s time to give up the mission impossible series.
I tend to agree, but I stated nothing about Viggo. You're thinking of the post that I was responding to.
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Ataahua
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May 10, 2:01am
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to help us keep ticking over. Very generous of him.
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
Fantasy novel - The Arcanist's Tattoo
My LOTR fan-fiction
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Patty
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May 10, 2:18am
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I know you didn’t mention him, I was doing my own musing…
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I tend to really like continuity, the same people and everything. But obviously we couldn’t have the same Saruman and I’m thinking that probably Elrond, if he were skirted in there somewhere somehow, wouldn’t be played by Hugo either. I’m sure we will see a whole stretching out of Gollum going up into the trees on a daily basis and then his escape. They could make this into one movie successfully I would think. But I hope not two.
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Ataahua
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May 10, 2:32am
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Cate Blanchett, however, remains ageless. /
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Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
Fantasy novel - The Arcanist's Tattoo
My LOTR fan-fiction
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Patty
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May 10, 2:36am
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I hope there is a way that they can shoehorn her into the story if she’s willing. Perhaps Aragorn passes through Lothlorian on his way to get to Moria to pick up Gollum’s trail.
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Otaku-sempai
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May 10, 2:41am
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There's no definitive need to include Elrond in the story; however, I could certainly see Aragorn visiting Rivendell--perhaps even recruiting Elladan and Elrohir for his mission (at least for a time). It's possible that Hugo Weaving could reprise the role, but it might be more practical to just recast.
I could also imagine Lee Pace reprising the role of Thranduil. We might also see more of Tauriel, whether or not she is played by Evangeline Lilly.
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Otaku-sempai
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I hope there is a way that they can shoehorn her into the story if she’s willing. Perhaps Aragorn passes through Lothlorian on his way to get to Moria to pick up Gollum’s trail.
Would it work to have Aragorn enter Khazad-dum after the failure of Balin's colony? I've always thought that Aragorn must have visited Moria sometime before Balin's expedition, possibly during his time in either Rohan or Gondor. It would not have had anything to do with his search for Gollum.
“Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved.” - Tony Isabella
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Patty
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Oh, golly, the whole Tauriel storyline was what I most hated about the Hobbit
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So please , no.
The twin elves on the other hand, I think could successfully be put in there. But perhaps it’s because I really enjoyed the fan film Born of Hope that they were in. I think that would be a successful way to pad the stories not some jacked up love story.
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Patty
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And just like the fan film Born of Hope…
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Gandalf could meet with Aragorn in Bree and discuss getting hold of Gollum. Time for me to watch that movie again before they take it off of YouTube.
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Lissuin
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May 10, 3:03am
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Indeed. The Elf queen does not age.
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So, two down. Just a few more roles to fill!
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May 10, 3:10am
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You're going to be a great studio executive. //
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Join us every weekend in the Hobbit movie forum for this week's CHOW (Chapter of the Week) discussion!
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Ataahua
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May 10, 3:18am
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Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
Fantasy novel - The Arcanist's Tattoo
My LOTR fan-fiction
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AshNazg
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May 10, 1:13pm
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Is this the Bridge movie that del Toro was planning?
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They had a draft script and some pre-production work done back when The Hobbit was going to be one movie with a bridge sequel.
I imagine they were sitting on all that hard work for years waiting to release it - they even hint at it with Thranduil's line about Strider in BoFA.
I'm curious if they were planning to release this as a Hobbit sequel but since the trilogy's reception declined with each installment they decided to shelve it until people got hungry again?
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Junesong
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May 10, 2:13pm
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Now this is a theory that I can get excited about
"So which story do you prefer?"
"The one with the tiger. That's the better story."
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Otaku-sempai
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May 10, 2:19pm
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[Oh, golly, the whole Tauriel storyline was what I most hated about the Hobbit] So please , no.
The twin elves on the other hand, I think could successfully be put in there. But perhaps it’s because I really enjoyed the fan film Born of Hope that they were in. I think that would be a successful way to pad the stories not some jacked up love story.
I wan't very happy with the whole Tauriel/Kili subplot, but without that she could have been a pretty interesting character. The hunt for Gollum is not an overly complex story and lacks a cinematically satisfying ending. Maybe bringing back Tauriel and giving her character some closure might be an interesting way to flesh out the film.
What other, canonical, events that take place over the same period would it make sense to include?
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Otaku-sempai
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May 10, 2:28pm
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The hunt for Gollum almost certainly would have been one of the elements that would have been part of del Toro's bridge film. I imagine that other elements could be used to flesh out this story. Gollum's encounter with Shelob and his captivity and interrogation in Mordor will likely be included. Probably also the doubling of the Rangers' watch on the Shire. Elrond's sons Elladan and Elrohir could join Aragorn in the hunt. Perhaps Aragorn will meet with King Brand in Dale. Lee Pace could return in the role of Thranduil. Tauriel might join in the search or might have some news about Gollum's activities.
“Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved.” - Tony Isabella
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CuriousG
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May 10, 2:44pm
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If the movies are bad, we blame evil twin Auhaata //
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CuriousG
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May 10, 2:54pm
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Speaking of bridges--what if film #2 could be about Balin's attempt to recolonize Moria?
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I always loved the story Gandalf read from the chronicle: the ambitious journey to fight and retake the ancestral home, fighting over the Bridge of Khazad-dum, the hard work over 5 years to search for mithril, then the doomed, gradual closing of the net against them until "they are coming." Now THAT is a story I think could be a marvelous, action-oriented and visually stunning movie. I think some of the best cinematography in the FOTR movie was in Moria, and cgi has only gotten better in the 20+ years since. A guy can dream...
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Junesong
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May 10, 3:16pm
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If any of you have a couple hundred million you could lend me, I'd make this movie right now.
"So which story do you prefer?"
"The one with the tiger. That's the better story."
"Thank you. And so it goes with God."
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Patty
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May 10, 5:04pm
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And could still not stray too far from the books. The fewer made up characters the better, though. Lose Tauriel completely. If you feel Galadriel, perhaps Arwen in Rivendell (or, I guess Lothlorien) aren’t enough feminine interest (for those who couldn’t love the story without that) ..I don’t know what to say. I guess I am a real enough female, but I loved the books with even less feminine interest.. I think we should be given credit for being able to enjoy the movie without it.
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Patty
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And could still not stray too far from the books. The fewer made up characters the better, though. Lose Tauriel completely. If you feel Galadriel, perhaps Arwen in Rivendell (or, I guess Lothlorien) aren’t enough feminine interest (for those who couldn’t love the story without that) ..I don’t know what to say. I guess I am a real enough female, but I loved the books with even less feminine interest.. I think we should be given credit for being able to enjoy the movie without it.
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Silvered-glass
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May 10, 5:30pm
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I should be excited but I'm feeling dread instead.
The story sounds like it's going to be by necessity 95% original PJ ideas, 5% Tolkien, and based on the Hobbit movies I don't expect for the original PJ ideas to be any good, though maybe he might produce something better with more time to plan things through.
The other issue is that the Tolkien "story" behind the movie is really just a fragment of backstory that I don't think is capable of standing on its own as an independent work and was never meant to do so.
I can see two main ways that the story could be realistically adapted in our situation:
a) A slapstick comedy in which Wile E. Coyote (Aragorn) hunts the roadrunner (Gollum) for three hours and gets him in the end.
b) A very dramatic and serious three-hour epic with kingdoms and armies from all the old fan-favorite countries culminating in an epic battle (more epic and dramatic than any ever filmed by PJ) over who gets to interrogate Gollum and learn about the One Ring. Denethor would probably appear as a side antagonist whose designs for the Ring Aragorn needs to thwart.
It's dismal. I think I would prefer the comedy option. Comedies can withstand plot issues in a way that dramas can't.
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AshNazg
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May 10, 6:05pm
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One thing we can guarantee is Lee Pace coming back for this. He's a key part of Gollum's story and Pace loved playing that role and has barely aged.
I expect we'll see Orlando Bloom again. Aragorn will have to be recast though, right? Who could fill those boots? Barry Keoghan?
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